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@gmarouli gmarouli commented Oct 6, 2025

In this PR, we propose to add practical tips for downsampling. For now this includes, a guideline on how to choose the downsampling interval. And then specifically for ILM, an explanation on how downsampling relates with tiers. After elastic/elasticsearch#135834, we should also add here the option to disable force merge.

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kkrik-es commented Oct 6, 2025

Can we wait for Marci to submit her update, then port these tips to the new structure?

## Practical tips

Downsampling requires reading and indexing the contents of a backing index. The following guidelines can help you get the most out of it.

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Do we need a note about rollover? To avoid creating backing indices that are too big..

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I have been going back and forth for this. For ILM it's easy because it's part of the policy, for data stream lifecycle, I would suggest that if we really think that it should be less maybe we should set it to something less. Right?

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You mean, update the default? We can do that at a later point, but what about older versions, or ILM configurations with existing rollover overrides? It could still help to suggest a best practice here.

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Yes, we could update the default, that would apply on all version unless the user chose to overwrite it. I restructure it a bit so we can have ILM focused recommendations. But if we think it should be reduced, we should consider updating the default for DLM as well.

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Let's file a tracking issue for this, so that we don't forget.

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gmarouli commented Oct 6, 2025

Can we wait for Marci to submit her update, then port these tips to the new structure?

It is created on the updated downsampling page. Right?

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### Choosing the downsampling interval

When choosing the downsampling interval, you need to consider the original sampling rate of your measurements. Ideally, you would like an interval that would reduce your number of documents by a significant amount. For example, if a sensor sends data every 10 seconds downsampling to 1 minute would reduce the number of documents by 83%, compared to downsampling to 5 minutes by 96%.
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When choosing the downsampling interval, you need to consider the original sampling rate of your measurements. Ideally, you would like an interval that would reduce your number of documents by a significant amount. For example, if a sensor sends data every 10 seconds downsampling to 1 minute would reduce the number of documents by 83%, compared to downsampling to 5 minutes by 96%.
When choosing the downsampling interval, you need to consider the original sampling rate of your measurements. Ideally, you would like an interval that would reduce your number of documents by a significant amount. For example, if a sensor sends data every 10 seconds, downsampling to 1 minute would reduce the number of documents by 83%, compared to downsampling to 5 minutes by 96%.

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Let's wait for Marci to have a pass too.

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I gave this a quick edit -- let me know if anything's unclear :)


### Reduce the index size (ILM only)

When configuring an ILM policy with downsampling, use the [rollover action](elasticsearch://reference/elasticsearch/index-lifecycle-actions/ilm-rollover.md) in the `hot` phase to control index size. Using smaller indices helps to minimize the impact of downsampling on a cluster's performance.
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I think it's important here to say use and not define. When writing an ILM policy a user needs to define a rollover action no matter what. However, if they are using downsampling, they can consider using this to reduce the size of their index. I want us to be careful to not imply that a user needs to define it only if they are trying to reduce the size. @marciw does this make sense?

@gmarouli gmarouli requested a review from marciw October 8, 2025 08:16
When using [index lifecycle management](/manage-data/lifecycle/index-lifecycle-management.md) (ILM), you can define at most one downsampling round in each of the following phases:

- `hot` phase: Runs after the [index time series end time](elasticsearch://reference/elasticsearch/index-settings/time-series.md#index-time-series-end-time) passes
- `warm` phase: Runs after the `min_age` time (starting to count after the rollover and respecting the [index time series end time](elasticsearch://reference/elasticsearch/index-settings/time-series.md#index-time-series-end-time))
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Does this read well @marciw ? Considering that we want to stress that rollover marks "the start of time"?

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gmarouli commented Oct 8, 2025

I am adding @leontyevdv as a reviewer because he recently watched a tutorial on how to configure TSDS and he can tell us how well it reads for a user.

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